Can a timeless (atemporal) God know what time it is 'now'?
Yes — on the block-universe view a timeless God knows every point in spacetime and can locate events, but there is no single objective 'now' for God to occupy.
Video Summary
Philosophers distinguish a temporal God (experiences change) from an atemporal/timeless God (exists outside time).
The block-universe (B-theory) fits a timeless God: all moments exist tenselessly and God can 'see' any point in spacetime.
A-theory views (presentism, growing block, moving spotlight) grant a privileged present and better support a temporal God.
Relativity undermines a single objective 'now', favoring tenseless (B-theory) accounts of time.
The tension between divine omniscience and human free will invites responses like middle knowledge, God limiting foreknowledge, or reinterpreting God's relation to time.
Yes — on the block-universe view a timeless God knows every point in spacetime and can locate events, but there is no single objective 'now' for God to occupy.
Special and general relativity show simultaneity is relative to an observer, undermining a single global present and lending support to tenseless (B-theory) views of time.
The video presents this as a core dilemma; responses include denying absolute foreknowledge (God limits knowledge), adopting middle knowledge (God knows possibilities but not fixed choices), or treating God's knowledge as outside temporal sequence.
Middle knowledge is the view that God knows all potential choices agents could make (counterfactuals of freedom) without necessarily knowing which will be actual, allowing room for genuine human decision-making.
"Time is a fundamental, incontrovertible feature of human experience and contains many of the most important theological questions we can ask."
The speaker emphasizes the complexity of the relationship between God and time, highlighting that both philosophies are intertwined with critical theological questions.
They believe exploring this relationship is essential as it informs our understanding of how the creator and creation relate to one another, as well as human transformation.
Furthermore, the speaker finds time's philosophy and physics particularly fascinating, which motivates their deep dive into the subject.
"We generally recognize a distinction between God as either a temporal being or an atemporal being."
The notion of God can be understood through two primary frameworks: a temporal God who experiences change and passage within time, and an atemporal God who exists outside of time and does not experience temporal succession.
The atemporal perspective has traditionally been more popular within theological discourse, but contemporary conversations are seeing a resurgence of interest in the concept of a temporal God.
"Plato argued that something perfect doesn’t change; if it changes, it degrades from perfection."
The atemporal view of God has roots in Platonic philosophy, which posits that a perfect being must be unchanging to maintain its perfection.
If God's perfection is linked to the idea of timelessness, this leads to the belief that God exists outside of time and is not subject to its passage.
"Could a timeless God know what time it is now? Yes."
The debate arises whether a timeless God can know the current time, with arguments suggesting that an atemporal God is aware of all points in space-time but does not perceive time objectively as "now."
In contrast, a temporal God perceives the flow of time and experiences continuous knowledge changes as the present shifts into the past.
"The block universe theory suggests that all moments of time exist tenselessly and can be read in any order."
The block universe model is introduced, suggesting a way of understanding time where past, present, and future moments coexist in a timeless structure.
The speaker notes the nuances between various time theories—such as A-theory, B-theory, and C-theory—each presenting a distinct method for conceptualizing the nature of time and our experience of it.
The C-theory describes time using three-place relations, asserting that all moments exist in relation to one another without an objective direction, comparable to the spectrum of colors where the order can be viewed from either end.
"Presentism states that all that exists is the present."
Presentism is highlighted as a common interpretation of A-theory, asserting the present is the only real temporal state, while the past and future do not exist.
Alternatives such as growing block theory affirm the existence of the present and past, while denying the reality of the future.
Additionally, the moving spotlight theory attempts to integrate concepts from both A and B theories by proposing a privileged present moment akin to a light moving over a landscape, giving it a special significance in time's continuum.
"There is something privileged about what we consciously call the present."
The discussion highlights the distinction between different theories of time, particularly the A and B theories. A theorists argue for an absolute present moment, while B theorists believe all moments in time—past, present, and future—are equally real.
Even within the B theory framework, the experience of the present feels unique and privileged, raising questions about how to reconcile this subjective experience with the objective nature of time.
The psychological significance of the present moment poses challenges for B theorists, who must account for why we perceive the present as special despite all moments being valid within their model.
"Our experience deceives us all the time."
Personal experiences may not reliably inform us about the ontology of time, as physical realities may differ from perceptions. For example, a chair appears solid, yet it is primarily composed of empty space.
The argument suggests that evolutionary adaptations affect our understanding, leading us to misinterpret complexities such as the nature of time.
Thus, despite the strong feeling of experiencing the present, the speaker maintains that the B theory is better supported by scientific evidence.
"According to special relativity and later general relativity, this isn't the case in the world or in the universe."
The A theory's claim of a universal present moment is contradicted by the principles of relativity, which indicate that time can pass at different rates depending on speed and proximity to gravitational fields.
Examples from popular media, such as the film "Interstellar," illustrate the relativistic effects on time perception, supporting the notion that there is no objective now.
The existence of varying temporal experiences based on physical conditions undermines the premise of a shared present across all observers.
"It seems quite difficult to understand how you could have a truly atemporal God that acts in time."
The traditional concept of an eternal God poses contradictions when viewed through the lens of a God interacting within a temporal framework.
A conversation is explored regarding the theological implications of God being timeless and how this relates to divine actions within a temporal world.
The discussion references presentism, the idea that only the present is real, as a viable stance for understanding God's nature in relation to time, suggesting that temporalist perspectives have gained traction in contemporary theology.
"Time is a property or a concomitant of God."
This perspective suggests that time is inherently linked to God's nature, challenging the notion that a temporal God is subject to the constraints of time.
The "prisoner of time" objection highlights concerns that if God is bound by time, it could imply an external force overriding divine control.
The response to this objection proposes that while God is temporal, this does not diminish sovereignty, as time is described as part of God's essence rather than something that constrains Him.
"If human beings are free, but God knows exactly what they're going to do with 100% accuracy, how are they really free?"
This quote highlights the core philosophical dilemma regarding the compatibility of divine foreknowledge and human free will. The discussion raises questions about whether true freedom can exist if an omniscient God fully knows human actions in advance.
One proposed solution to this dilemma is that God might choose not to foresee human actions, suggesting that His lack of knowledge isn't due to inability but is instead a deliberate choice. This challenges the notion of knowledge being a prerequisite for control or manipulation over free will.
An alternative solution discussed is the idea of God as an a-temporal being who does not perceive events in a linear time sequence. This means that God observes events as they unfold rather than predetermining them based on foresight.
"God has middle knowledge, so He knows all the potential things that you could do."
The concept of middle knowledge implies that God possesses awareness of all possible choices and actions individuals can take, along with the likelihood of those choices. This allows for the existence of free will while still affirming God's comprehensive understanding of potential outcomes.
However, it's important to note that, under this perspective, God does not know definitively which actions individuals will take. This opens up room for genuine human decision-making within the framework of divine omniscience.