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More & More Signals Popping Up That Suggest A Pullback Is Near | Lance Roberts

Adam Taggart | Thoughtful Money®

Main takeaways
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Short-term sell signal and weakening momentum suggest a pullback could arrive in the next few weeks.

02

Nvidia delivered huge revenue and margin beats, but accounts receivable and sustainability after the data‑center buildout are concerns.

03

Jackson Hole comments imply financial conditions aren’t yet restrictive, leaving the Fed room to hike later if needed.

04

A potential long-term U.S. deal for Venezuelan oil could reshape energy reserves and OPEC dynamics, but nationalization risks remain.

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Technical setup: market rallied in August, retested the 20‑day; a corrective move toward the 50‑day is possible in September/midterms seasonality. ]

Key moments
Questions answered

What near‑term technical signal suggests a pullback could be coming?

Roberts points to a short‑term sell signal and declining momentum; he recommends stop orders near recent highs and watching the 50‑day moving average as a likely pullback target.

Does Nvidia’s blowout quarter remove downside risk for the AI trade?

While Nvidia reported enormous revenue, margins and growth, concerns remain about rising accounts receivable and slower growth once the multi‑year data‑center buildout completes — so upside is real but not without longer‑term risks.

What did the Jackson Hole commentary imply about Fed policy?

Kevin Warsh signaled that financial conditions aren’t currently restrictive, meaning the Fed still has room to raise rates later if inflation persists; the goal remains a 2% inflation target.

How could a U.S. deal on Venezuelan oil affect markets?

A long‑term lease/access to Venezuelan reserves could materially boost U.S. proven oil supply and weaken OPEC’s cohesion, though political instability and nationalization risk could limit long‑term certainty.

How large might an imminent pullback be, historically speaking?

Roberts suggests a realistic correction of roughly 3–5% is likely, with the possibility of a deeper move up to around 10% in a worse scenario; the weekly indicator could prompt risk‑reduction within 2–3 weeks.

Market Caution and Risk Management 00:01

"I'd be a little bit cautious here with exposures. We're still short-term on a sell signal."

  • Analysts are urging caution in the current market environment, suggesting that despite not being overbought, there are signs of weakening momentum.

  • From a risk management perspective, it is advisable to set stop-loss orders around previous highs, possibly near the 50-day moving average, anticipating a potential pullback to that level.

Nvidia's Earnings and Market Sentiment 01:29

"Revenue was up 106% on a year-over-year basis to 96 billion."

  • Nvidia recently reported earnings that significantly exceeded expectations, presenting an astounding year-over-year revenue growth and indicating strong demand, particularly in data centers.

  • However, there remains skepticism in the market regarding the sustainability of Nvidia's growth, with ongoing debates about financial practices within the AI sector adding to the negative sentiment.

  • Concerns have been raised about accounts receivable and the potential impact of uncollected payments on future revenue, highlighting the importance of careful analysis despite positive growth figures.

Future of Data Centers and Nvidia's Revenue 06:35

"This has been our thesis for the last two years that Nvidia is at the forefront of this whole data center AI buildout."

  • The desire for new data centers is currently driving Nvidia's revenue, but once the construction of these centers is complete, a transition will occur where revenue generation becomes more prominent.

  • Analysts predict that while growth rates cannot continue indefinitely at such a high pace, there will still be a need for consistent upgrades and chip replacements after the data centers become operational.

  • Future projections indicate a slowdown in earnings growth due to the law of large numbers, as maintaining high growth rates becomes increasingly challenging as revenue scales.

The Role of Nvidia and Data Centers in Market Dynamics 08:44

"When the data centers start making serious revenues, that's really going to the hyperscalers and the companies that are building out these data centers."

  • Nvidia's role in the market primarily involves supplying chips, but it is important to note that the revenues generated are more directly benefiting hyperscalers, such as Microsoft, Amazon, and Google, rather than Nvidia itself.

  • As revenue from data centers starts to ramp up, investment focus may shift toward these hyperscalers, suggesting that those companies are where investors should consider placing their funds for growth.

Market Reactions to Fed Signals and Inflation Outlook 10:50

"The Fed is not going to be hiking rates at the next meeting. They still have an inflation target of 2%."

  • Kevin Walsh's speech at Jackson Hole indicated a desire for the market to operate independently of Fed interventions, emphasizing a need for the market to focus on fundamental pricing rather than relying on Fed direction.

  • He reiterated that the goal remains to reduce inflation back to 2% and noted that current financial conditions do not seem restrictive, providing room for potential rate hikes in the future if necessary.

  • Walsh suggested that current economic factors, like rising oil prices, may contribute to temporary inflation but did not indicate immediate hikes in interest rates.

Nature of Market Signals and Interest Rates 14:10

"The interest rate signal you’re getting is not actually operating off the fundamentals."

  • There is some concern over the distortion in the bond market due to the basis trade being conducted by hedge funds, which significantly impacts interest rates.

  • The current interest rates might not accurately reflect economic reality, as they are influenced by short-term trading rather than genuine economic growth and inflation factors, creating a disconnect in the market signals.

  • Walsh's policies aim to normalize market conditions, but interventions like the Treasury Operation Twist could complicate these efforts by introducing temporary pressures and altering true market signals.

Market Signals and the Role of Central Planning 17:49

"The market does what the market does."

  • The current economic climate reflects a significant distortion in market signals due to the influence of short-term traders, making it challenging to obtain a clear understanding of market fundamentals.

  • This situation is at odds with the desire for a "clean signal" from the markets, as central planners, like the Federal Reserve, have used tactics over the years to intervene and try to bring market conditions down to what they deem reasonable levels.

  • However, the speaker argues that such interventions do not "rightsize" the market as it should self-correct, revealing a deeper issue where the market's inherent value becomes obscured.

Interest Rate Dynamics and Economic Perception 18:52

"We're getting back to these normal levels."

  • The discussion shifts to the perception of interest rates, which are currently viewed as high compared to the zero rates maintained from 2008 to recent times due to quantitative easing.

  • As interest rates revert to more normal levels post-zero suppression, they cause a higher burden on the economy, with signs of demand destruction emerging.

  • Recent data highlights this trend, with notable drops in metrics such as the Chicago PMI, which fell sharply, indicating a slowdown in economic activity.

Employment Revisions and Economic Weakness Signs 19:50

"That revision came in at a negative 79,000."

  • The revisions in non-farm payrolls reveal that employment numbers are weaker than previously believed, with a net loss of jobs, contradicting earlier expectations of job growth.

  • This lack of inflationary pressure suggests that economic destruction is occurring, influenced by high oil prices, tariffs, and the effects of rising interest rates from the Fed's policies.

  • The combined factors are putting pressure on yields and the broader economy, indicating a growing strain from these elements that could potentially lead to a recession.

Divergent Economic Views and Future Implications 21:00

"The deficit spending can be a short-term stimulus, but it creates a longer-term problem."

  • There is a division of opinion among economists, with some expressing optimism about current economic performance while others warn of a cooling economy.

  • Discussions point to the government's response to rising national debt service costs, which has leaned towards increasing deficit spending instead of cutting expenses.

  • The looming concern is whether this strategy will lead to increased inflation or whether higher rates will force political leaders to reconsider spending.

Business Investment and Economic Growth Factors 24:12

"We're seeing increases in productivity rates."

  • There is a notable divide in economic activity, with certain sectors, like business investment in construction and resources, performing robustly, contributing to inflationary pressures.

  • Despite a potential downturn indicated by employment and incomes, productive investments driven by advances such as AI are boosting economic productivity.

  • This duality suggests that while there are positive growth indicators, the long-term outlook may be challenged by underlying issues such as demographics and debt that are expected to overshadow current economic growth.

Long-term Economic Effects and Market Signals 26:16

"The long-term effects of debts and deficits are disinflationary, and we will return to that cycle as demographics continue to age."

  • Economic indicators suggest that while current trends may seem temporary, the overall trajectory points towards disinflation due to an aging population and insufficient influx of younger workers into the labor market. This demographic shift will likely perpetuate existing disinflationary trends in the long run.

Current Market Analysis and Technical Indicators 27:04

"We had a big rally back in early August, and the market peaked at an all-time high, followed by a pullback."

  • The market experienced a significant rally in early August, reaching a peak which was followed by a necessary pullback. This correction came down to the 20-day moving average and retested previous highs, indicating a crucial support level. August, typically known for being a weaker month, has surprisingly shown positive performance, often correlating with favorable returns for the rest of the year when followed by an uptrend earlier.

Potential for Market Corrections as September Approaches 27:58

"We are entering September, a statistically weaker month, and we may see a correction continue."

  • As September is statistically characterized as a weaker month and coincides with midterm elections, market volatility may increase, leading to further corrections. A prudent approach would involve managing risk by setting stop-loss levels around previous highs and the 50-day moving average, anticipating that a pullback may occur.

Investor Behavior and Market Sentiment — Caution Advised 28:36

"Retail investors have stepped out of the markets, and institutional investors are absent for most of August."

  • The retreat of retail investors from the market has been notable, resulting in muted activity in major sectors. Additionally, institutional investors have largely remained out of the market in August, with a return expected in September. This absence of participation raises caution as the market prepares for potential volatility ahead of midterm elections.

Market Breadth and Future Outlook 33:06

"Market breadth is still pretty broad right now, which can be a contrarian signal."

  • Despite a currently strong market breadth indicated by many sectors participating in upward momentum, it's essential to recognize the potential for this to serve as a contrarian signal. As more stocks begin to hit high performance levels, the risk of a market correction increases, suggesting that investors should remain vigilant and possibly reduce exposure as market conditions change.

Weekly Indicator and Risk Reduction Signals 35:00

"We're looking for that to reverse... a good indicator historically to go ahead and start reduce."

  • The discussion focuses on a weekly indicator that is measured once a week, with updates published in the newsletter. The aim is to monitor if the indicator reverses, alongside the four-week average, as that can signal a potential risk reduction.

  • If a reversal is observed, historical data suggests that it would be prudent to begin reducing exposure within the next two to three weeks.

  • The speaker clarifies that while this may indicate a correction of about 3% to 5%, or perhaps even as much as 10%, it does not predict a major market crash.

Element: The Importance of Electrolytes 35:56

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  • The formulation is particularly beneficial for athletes, individuals fasting, or those adhering to specific diets, including keto and paleo.

Potential Long-Term Lease with Venezuela 39:12

"The U.S. is very close to striking a long-term, like 100-year lease deal with Venezuela for operation of its oil fields."

  • A significant development involves a potential deal between the U.S. and Venezuela that could double the U.S. proven oil reserves, thereby solidifying America's position as a major player in the global oil market.

  • This move is seen as a strategic finalization of previous plans to enhance U.S. energy independence and diminish reliance on OPEC for oil pricing.

  • If successful, this agreement may lead to increased investments in Venezuelan oil fields that have been historically underdeveloped, thereby impacting global oil supply dynamics.

Concerns about Future Nationalization 43:31

"There's always a risk that... in 12 years, somebody else comes to power in Venezuela and wants to nationalize."

  • While optimism surrounds the potential lease with Venezuela, concerns persist regarding future political shifts in the country that could threaten U.S. operations in these oil fields.

  • It’s anticipated that the lease agreement will contain provisions to mitigate risks of nationalization, but uncertainty remains about the stability of such agreements in the face of changing political landscapes.

  • The dynamic of OPEC may also shift, particularly if Venezuela departs the cartel, which could fundamentally alter oil pricing strategies globally.

The Impact of Socialism on Venezuela's Economy 45:06

"This is definitely a modern real-world example of just how socialism has destroyed that country."

  • The discussion highlights the negative consequences of socialism in Venezuela. The inability of the Venezuelan regime to effectively maintain and manage their oil infrastructure has led to economic decline, indicating a broader issue with socialist governance.

  • The Venezuelan regime has benefited from U.S. efforts to regulate their oil exports, yet their poor management skills have exacerbated the situation. Historical infrastructure has decayed under their rule, leading to economic hardship for its citizens.

  • As they fail to improve their own economic standing, they continue to rely on previous infrastructure rather than initiating effective innovations.

Oil Leases and Economic Opportunities for Venezuela 46:01

"This really does feel a lot like a win-win for American and Venezuelan interests."

  • It is suggested that renewed oil leases will provide Venezuela with significant economic inflow, allowing them to reinvest in their oil infrastructure. This arrangement may lead to modernization efforts that could stimulate economic growth.

  • The potential for receiving educational support from American engineers indicates a collaborative approach that could enhance Venezuela's self-sufficiency in managing its resources over time.

The Future of Oil Dependency and Market Observations 46:30

"As long as people are going to pay for oil, let's get some checks, right?"

  • There's a recognition that, although oil may not be a long-term solution due to the possibility of nuclear energy overtaking its usage, the current demand provides a vital economic opportunity for Venezuela.

  • The conversation acknowledges the uncertainty of how political conditions in Venezuela will evolve and expresses cautious optimism regarding its potential recovery.

Investor Behavior and Market Conditions 49:30

"When you feel like you need to do something, you're typically better off just not doing anything."

  • During stagnant market conditions, investors often feel compelled to take action, which can lead to poor decision-making. The advice underscores the importance of patience and waiting for clear market signals before making trades.

  • The market's sideways movement for several months suggests that investors should focus on assessing broader trends rather than reacting impulsively to short-term fluctuations.

Seasonal Market Dynamics 50:29

"It’s not uncommon to have a boring market, especially in late August."

  • The absence of numerous traders during late August contributes to diluted market activity, suggesting that significant movements may occur after Labor Day when more investors return.

  • This seasonal trend emphasizes the cyclical nature of market activity and the importance of context in evaluating trading strategies during this period.

The Value of Disconnecting from Digital Life 53:09

"It was a great reminder... to literally be humans for a day, interacting with other humans for prolonged periods of time."

  • The speaker reflects on a recent experience of disconnecting from technology and spending a day in nature, which was a rejuvenating escape from the chaos of daily life.

  • This experience highlighted the importance of truly living and forming authentic connections with other people.

  • There is a call for balance in life, advocating for scheduled personal breaks away from digital distractions to enhance overall well-being.

Finding Authentic Happiness Beyond Materialism 55:26

"You don't want to have regrets over not having good memories to reflect back on."

  • The conversation transitions to the societal pressures surrounding wealth and material possessions, often showcased on social media.

  • It emphasizes measuring personal happiness by meaningful experiences rather than material benchmarks like expensive cars or homes.

  • The speakers argue that true fulfillment comes from simple, joyful activities with loved ones, which do not require significant financial investment.

The Pitfalls of Social Media Comparisons 57:30

"We start benchmarking ourselves against the wrong benchmark."

  • The speakers discuss the negative impact of social media, where individuals often compare their lives unfavorably to curated perceptions of others.

  • This comparison leads to feelings of inadequacy, distorting one’s sense of reality and happiness.

  • Instead of focusing on financial success, the conversation encourages viewers to seek joy through personal relationships and shared experiences.

The True Nature of Happiness 01:00:29

"Most people, when they reflect back, will find that very little money was involved in their happiest moments."

  • The importance of relationships and community is underscored, indicating that happiness often stems from low-cost or no-cost activities, such as potlucks or games with friends.

  • The speakers assert that societal definitions of success can mislead individuals into thinking that wealth is directly correlated with happiness.

  • Ultimately, they encourage the re-evaluation of personal definitions of happiness and fulfillment, prioritizing time spent with others over material gains.

The Joy of Simple Gatherings 01:02:05

"Things that bring you the most joy tend to be available to the entire socioeconomic spectrum."

  • Simple activities like going for a walk with a friend or hosting a neighborhood potluck provide immense joy without significant costs. These gatherings facilitate deeper connections with neighbors and create shared experiences.

  • Participating in neighborhood potlucks can transform mundane meals into enjoyable social events, fostering community bonding without requiring expensive setups.

  • The key takeaway is to protect time in your schedule for genuine living, emphasizing that joy often comes from inexpensive experiences rather than costly outings.

Creating Memorable Spaces 01:03:00

"I'm trying to create something that will be a long-term memory creator at low cost."

  • Investments in property, like buying a house, can serve as environments for creating lasting memories with family. It’s about establishing spaces where future generations, like children and grandchildren, can come together.

  • Proximity to nature, such as being near hiking trails, enables simple yet fulfilling activities like hiking with a dog that require no additional expenses.

  • The emphasis is on maximizing quality of life by creating opportunities for experiences that enrich your life rather than chasing material goals influenced by social media.

Authentic Living Over Material Pursuits 01:06:44

"The things that bring you fulfillment and happiness are the things that you do need."

  • The discussion touches on the allure of modern conveniences, with people often dazzled by the features of new cars that they rarely utilize. This serves as a metaphor for chasing superficial desires rather than focusing on what truly matters.

  • Genuine fulfillment comes from connections with people and nature, not from constantly reacting to distractions or comparing oneself to others on social media.

  • Living authentically, through real-world experiences, significantly contributes to one’s sense of happiness and quality of life.

Engagement and Community Opportunities 01:09:37

"I want the most number of people to get the lowest price possible to attend this conference."

  • The video emphasizes the importance of engagement with the community through events like seminars and conferences, which are designed to educate and empower investors.

  • Financial guidance and connections provided through community resources can enhance personal financial strategies, making them more effective and tailored.

  • There's an encouragement for viewers to become proactive in their financial education, with opportunities for discounts available to make these resources more accessible.