Chris Hansen Confronts EDP445 | FULL EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

Previous Appearances and Background 00:20

"Last week on Have a Seat, we spoke with Mike Clum, the director and filmmaker who put together a documentary called The Sick Mind of EDP445."

• Chris Hansen gives an overview of his ongoing series, "Have a Seat," and mentions his previous interview with Mike Clum regarding a documentary focused on EDP445.

• This episode features a full interview with Ryan Morland, known as EDP445, which was originally conducted for Clum's documentary.

EDP445's Identity and Fanbase 00:43

"He is a diehard Philadelphia Eagles fan that is kind of obsessed with the team."

• EDP445 is introduced as an enthusiastic Philadelphia Eagles fan who enjoys socializing and having a good time, emphasizing his desire to take care of his friends and family.

• When asked if he considers himself a predator, he firmly denies it, claiming, "No."

The Meaning Behind the Name EDP445 01:18

"EDP445 stands for 'Eat That [expletive] 445.'"

• Ryan Morland explains the origin of his online persona, EDP445, stating it was born from a random moment when he was trying to create a YouTube channel back in 2010 or 2011.

• The name was created on a whim while he was brainstorming ideas, reflecting a playful yet edgy tone that resonated with his audience.

Encounter with Alex Rosen 02:09

"Alex Rosen is a guy who is on his vigilante quest to go out and try to catch predators."

• Morland describes Alex Rosen as a vigilante attempting to expose predators, but criticizes his methods as unprofessional.

• He recalls the moment they first met during an investigation in Bakersfield, detailing how Rosen approached him during a setup.

The Context of the Meeting and Intentions 03:18

"I showed up to that location that day trying to meet up with an underage girl."

• During the interview, Morland admits he intended to meet an underage girl and acknowledges this was part of a sexual encounter.

• When confronted about the criminal implications, he struggles to justify his actions, expressing complex feelings about his loneliness and the power of his internet fame.

Regret and Accountability 07:10

"Of course I regret it."

• Morland expresses some regret regarding his actions during the online interactions with a person he believed to be underage, stating that people have a right to their opinions about his remorse.

• He reveals that he initially blocked the girl he was chatting with because he recognized the illegal nature of his behavior but later unblocked her, hinting at personal struggles with being lonely and lacking connections.

Impact of the Situation and Consequences 09:16

"If it was where I belong, I'd be in shackles right now."

• Morland reflects on the potential legal consequences he could have faced if the interaction had been handled differently.

• He acknowledges that he has had years to contemplate his choices and the consequences of his actions, indicating a desire to move on from that phase in his life, while also understanding public perceptions regarding his behavior.

Acknowledgment of Wrongdoing 10:21

"Honestly, we can be friends and be cool. I can't do this. This is something I'm going to have to live with for the rest of my life."

• The individual expresses deep remorse and reveals their internal conflict about the situation, indicating that they will carry the burden of their actions permanently. They convey concerns about how their actions will affect their relationships with others.

The Role of Loneliness 10:43

"I've already mentioned it, man. You know, loneliness... not really getting out of the house."

• The interviewee attributes their behavior to feelings of loneliness and a lack of social interaction. They reflect on how being isolated can lead individuals to make poor choices, suggesting that curiosity and a desire for control contribute to such predatory behaviors.

Patterns of Predatory Behavior 11:39

"People do this more so because they're bored. They don't really have anything to do."

• The subject claims that boredom can drive individuals to engage in risky behaviors, including predatory actions. This suggests a pattern, as predators often seek excitement or a thrill due to their mundane lives.

Rationalization of Actions 15:36

"It is, I mean, what else do you want me to like?"

• The individual attempts to rationalize their behavior, acknowledging the emotional and psychological damage that their actions could cause to a young girl. They show a vague understanding of the potential consequences but still struggle to fully accept the gravity of their actions.

The Casualty of Actions and Guilt 19:16

"Of course I do. I'm not... but you're treating this like it's some casual thing."

• The interviewee admits to feeling guilt about their actions but seems to dismiss the severity of the situation by stating that it's been years and they have moved on. This indicates a disconnect between their acknowledgment of wrongdoing and a true understanding of its impact.

The Decision to Meet 19:40

"I told her I can't do this, can't go. It's highly illegal and it's wrong."

• The subject recounts a pivotal moment when they considered not going to meet the girl. Despite recognizing the illegality and immorality of the situation based on advice from a friend, they ultimately allowed emotional manipulation from the girl to influence their decision.

The Consequences of Carrying a Firearm 20:40

"I probably would be going down for three counts of murder in the first degree."

• The subject discusses a past moment when he contemplated bringing a firearm, specifically a Glock 17, to a meeting that could have escalated violently. He acknowledges that it's a blessing in disguise that he left the gun at home, as his potential actions could have led to dire consequences, including multiple murders.

• He emphasizes the intense stress and fear that could cause someone to react violently when their life feels threatened, indicating a severe anxiety about being targeted and a sense of paranoia during that timeframe.

Reflections on Gun Ownership and Anger 22:30

"I've had times where I've literally told a friend of mine... I don't feel safe having these things around me."

• The subject reveals that even after the intense experiences in 2021, he continued to own firearms and practiced at a shooting range.

• He admits that while shooting targets, his thoughts were often filled with violent fantasies against specific people he felt wronged him, showcasing a deep-seated rage that still lingers.

• This acknowledgment leads him to ultimately ask a friend to change the combination to his gun safe out of fear of his potential actions, hinting at an awareness of his dangerous mindset.

An Involvement with a Minor 25:46

"You're exposed as a predator trying to have sex with a 13-year-old girl and now this... with a 15-year-old girl?"

• The conversation shifts to the subject's recent interactions with a 15-year-old girl named Kayla Hoskins, which raises serious questions due to his previous allegations of predatory behavior.

• He claims that the minor approached him and discusses inappropriate messages he sent, indicating a troubling pattern of behavior.

• The subject controversially asserts that young girls, through their social media presence, signal awareness of their appeal, which he justifies as being the reason for his engagement, reflecting a deeply problematic perspective on accountability.

Threatening Behavior Towards Minors 29:35

"If this goes wrong in any way, shape, or form, I'll give your soul to the Lord because your ass belongs to me."

• He openly acknowledges communicating threats to the underage girl, which illustrates a continuation of dangerous and predatory behavior.

• This admission of threatening a minor raises serious moral and legal concerns, as he expresses a willingness to resort to violence if he feels betrayed or set up by her.

• The contrast between his previous claims of having moved past earlier incidents and this recent engagement underscores a persistent pattern of harmful behavior, revealing significant ongoing psychological issues.

The Impact of Vigilante Investigations 30:22

"Had this been me doing an investigation and you had surfaced in this way, your ass would be in prison now."

• Chris Hansen discusses the consequences of vigilante investigations and how sloppiness in their execution can affect outcomes for predators. He points out that the lack of professionalism can inadvertently allow individuals to escape legal ramifications despite their misconduct.

Acknowledgment of Responsibility 31:10

"I respect what you do, who are out catching predators in the right and legal way."

• EDP445 shows a level of respect for Chris Hansen’s work in exposing sexual predators. He expresses an understanding of the seriousness of the issue, even while discussing his own actions, indicating that he recognizes the legal and ethical boundaries involved in such investigations.

The Nature of Conversations with Minors 33:14

"There's always somebody out there watching."

• EDP445 emphasizes the danger and consequences of engaging in sexually charged conversations with minors. He advises against pursuing such interactions, acknowledging that individuals could easily get caught in a legal net without realizing the risks involved.

Denial of Proactive Approaching 34:20

"No, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth."

• Throughout the interview, Chris Hansen questions EDP445 about his past approaches to underage individuals, emphasizing that in true predator cases, the adult must make the first move. EDP445 attempts to downplay his responsibility by asserting that the minors he interacted with approached him first, which he believes negates his culpability.

The Aftermath of Confrontation 36:28

"You could have approached me at the grocery store, but you approached me at a dialysis center."

• EDP445 describes his confrontation during a dialysis appointment, highlighting his belief that the situation was handled poorly by the vigilantes who tracked him down. He expresses resentment towards the way they chose to approach him, considering it inappropriate given the serious nature of his health condition.

Avoiding Responsibility 39:20

"So what you're saying is that you brought it upon yourself in many ways."

• Chris Hansen points out that EDP445's actions directly led to the consequences he faced, asserting that his engagement in inappropriate conversations was the catalyst for the confrontation. This line of questioning illustrates the disconnect between EDP445's justifications and the reality of the situation he created.

Lack of Remorse 40:15

"To be honest with you, I ain't got nothing to say to her."

• EDP445 reveals a significant lack of remorse toward the victims of his actions, stating that he does not feel the need to apologize or seek forgiveness. This admission underscores the troubling mindset that continues to persist even in the face of his predatory behavior.

Acknowledgment of Wrongdoing and Remorse 40:44

"I understand what I did was wrong. I have a lot of remorse for it."

• The interviewee expresses that he recognizes his actions were inappropriate and admits to feeling genuine remorse about the situation.

• He claims that he is facing severe consequences for his actions, indicating a personal and societal price that he believes he is paying.

Defense Against Prison Sentencing Opinions 40:54

"Their opinion doesn’t matter at the end of the day."

• The interviewee brushes off the opinions of those who believe he should serve prison time, suggesting that public sentiment does not impact his reality.

• He emphasizes that while others may hold strong opinions about his situation, he believes the outcome is out of his control, likening it to political opinions.

Steps Towards Betterment and Therapy 41:25

"I'm going to therapy, going to counseling. I'm taking necessary steps to try to better myself."

• He discusses his commitment to personal improvement through therapy and counseling, presenting this as an essential step in acknowledging his past mistakes.

• The interviewee insists that if his efforts are not seen as sufficient by others, he feels at a loss for how to address that skepticism.

Guaranteeing Future Behavior 41:36

"I don’t know how I can guarantee it to you. I guess you're just going to have to trust me."

• When pressed on how he can assure that he will not engage in similar behavior again, he admits to a lack of concrete assurances.

• He acknowledges that his credibility is low but insists that his therapy has diminished any urges to repeat past mistakes.

Blocking Inappropriate Contacts 42:39

"I’ve actually had multiple people hit me up on Instagram posing to be 13 or 14-year-olds, and I’ve blocked them all."

• The interviewee reveals that he has received messages from individuals pretending to be minors but has taken proactive measures to block them.

• He reflects on learning from previous incidents, suggesting that he understands the importance of avoiding contact with potential underage individuals.

Explanation of Distasteful Behavior 43:41

"I mean, the reason I do that is because people mess with me."

• He provides an explanation for sending inappropriate images to others, framing it as a form of retaliation against trolling and harassment he's experienced.

• The interviewee attempts to rationalize his behavior as a reaction to being targeted, though this line of reasoning raises further questions about his judgment.

Current Life Situation and Relationships 45:27

"Life is actually pretty good... blessed to have two jobs."

• He describes his current status, indicating that despite his past, he feels fortunate to have employment and stability in his living situation.

• The conversation shifts to his previous relationships, noting that while he sought companionship, past partners have not met his needs, particularly highlighting an instance of feeling controlled.

Content Creation and Future Aspirations 48:11

"I am a content creator still. I have my own website."

• He assures that he continues to create content, albeit at a smaller scale than before, and emphasizes that he finds enjoyment in his endeavors despite past challenges.

• The interviewee reflects on his desire to share experiences and maintain a presence, indicating an inclination to keep engaging with his audience.

Steps Toward Change and Future Intentions 48:41

"I've learned my lesson. I'm a changed individual."

• He concludes with a statement of personal growth, insisting that he is committed to making amends and transforming his life.

• He emphasizes that he is not engaging in harmful behaviors and seeks to focus on living positively, recognizing the consequences of his previous actions.

Future Charges and Support 49:55

"We will keep you posted right here."

• Chris Hansen emphasizes ongoing updates regarding potential further charges against the individual being discussed. This indicates a commitment to transparency and accountability within the investigative process.

Documentary Proceeds for Victims 50:00

"Proceeds from Mike Clum's documentary will go to rain.org, an organization that helps victims of sexual violence."

• Hansen shares that the profits from the documentary created by Mike Clum will be donated to Rainn.org. This organization focuses on providing support and resources for victims of sexual violence, highlighting the importance of aiding those affected by such issues.

Upcoming Episodes and Investigations 50:11

"I'll see you right back here next Wednesday for another episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen."

• Viewers can expect a new episode of "Have a Seat with Chris Hansen" every Wednesday, reinforcing Hansen's commitment to regular content and ongoing discussions about predator investigations.

• "Monday is when Predators I've Caught drops."

• The series titled "Predators I've Caught" is set to release on Mondays, continuing the theme of confronting and exposing predators.

• "Every Thursday, another episode of Takedown with Chris Hansen will come out."

• Hansen mentions that "Takedown with Chris Hansen," which focuses on predator investigations, will be available every Thursday on his streaming network, True Blue. This consistent schedule allows audiences to stay engaged with his work in catching predators.

Watching and Listening 50:26

"Until then, I'll be watching and listening."

• Hansen concludes with a reminder of his dedication to monitoring the situation and staying informed, reinforcing the significance of vigilance in combatting predatory behavior.